I am going to start with the second story that happened today. A nice old lady called me and told me she was buying a
new HP computer with Qwest DSL and Windows Vista. It is a very nice computer. It came fully loaded with a huge
monitor, remote, TV card for watching TV and listening to AM/FM radio. What more could a person ask for? and all
under $800 with a HP printer. So she kindly asked me to hook it up for her. I thought it would be a quick install. So I
talked with her as I hooked everything up. Once I was done I turned on the computer and connected it to the Internet.
It said it was protected by the newest Norton on a trial basis. Immediately it disconnected from the Internet and
stopped working? So I did a spy bot virus scan and found 16+ viruses on her computer. How did she get these
viruses? Well from doing windows updates and downloading avast anti virus of course. Just that fast. So I looked for
her Windows Vista install disk. It said "32 bit only" and she had a brand new 64 bit computer that came with the disk.
OK that makes sense? I did a system restore and put my anti virus on it before connecting it to the net this time. It
stayed connected. So what next? Well I put in the Printer Driver disk and it said it was not compatible with this version
of Windows. OK? What a joke? The lady asked me if we should box it up and send it back. I told her this was normal
Vista features in action. So after downloading the correct driver and installing it everything worked about as well as
could be expected of a Vista computer. What No Office? No Word? OK so I put on openoffice.org 2.1 and it ran fine.
We ended up putting SUSE Linux on the other half of the computer just in case Vista decided to take a dump.

So what's the first story? Well my father asked me to put Vista Ultimate on his laptop. My dad the Windows Lover I
thought. This ought to teach him. And indeed it did. The Control panel crashed The system when you tried to open it.
Explorer.exe crashed all The time. He could not find drivers for his new Vista Ready laptop, He had all kinds of fun. In
The end he told me he would rather use Linux than Vista lol. Now I have him convinced.

So if you want to learn SUSE just go to www.mindblowingidea.com and click SELF HELP. Look for SUSE on one of The
4 pages. SUSE 10.2 is The newest stable version. Just use it.

The Response to This:

An Anonymous Sender wrote:

That’s good information to have.  While I’m no lover of Bill Gates, I’m not sure everyone is ready or even needs to
switch to Linux to avoid The Vista pitfalls.  When purchasing a new computer, they can always use XP or Media
Edition if they are gun shy about Bill’s newest boondoggle.  At least they would then have The drivers they need and
not have The learning curve that results from a new OS.

Just a thought.

My Response:

Windows 98 and 2000 are the most secure versions of Windows but Microsoft stopped allowing people to download
updates for them and now you have to switch to XP or Vista or else.

I tried this but it does not work. Windows XP is under Heavy fire right now from all the Linux supporting hackers and
the people Microsoft stole from as well as all those people that hate the blue screen of death. Some people just like
making viruses to brag about or as a hobby in their free time. No anti virus firewall or spy ware program can stop all
the viruses out there. Many XP computers just simply won't work until you wipe the entire hard drive (not reformat or
repartition) and reinstall Windows and all the programs from scratch. This is why I give the simple choice at startup to
boot in Windows or Linux. Plus did I forget to mention XP will only be sold for another year and then Microsoft is
dumping it? Well they are. Microsoft is trying to force everyone to switch to Vista. And they are making all the new
programs only Vista friendly. This is not a good business strategy. When I can't run my old windows 98, 95, NT, 2000,
3.1 programs and XP programs in Vista because Vista does not support them and I can run them in Linux for free
under WINE there is a serious problem! That's right pre Vista programs run better under Wine in Linux than on Vista! I
know its a shocker but soon even Internet Explorer 7 will be available from ie4Linux for Linux. And you can currently
run Internet explorer 5.0 5.5 and 6.0 on Linux. So you don't have to worry about those annoying sites popping up
saying your browser is not supported for this page. So why stay with Windows XP? well for another couple months you
should still be able to use the new programs from Microsoft and for a year or maybe two Microsoft will still supply
updates and registrations for it. And they will still sell it for a year. And where is the fun in an Operating system without
Blue Screens and Viruses? Ok I admit that SUSE Linux does not support DVD playback when you install it but using a
detailed group of instructions or an install CD I created you can have your DVD player working in no time. Yes a lot of
3D video games for Windows don't work in Linux. But now most of the Video Games being made for XBOX PS3 Wii
and Computers are all being made for Linux not to mention all the free games. My favorite is defendguin. Based on
Atari's skyline game they made. There are cool jet fighter games too. Now you may think but What about all the cool
graphics in XP, Vista, and Mac? Well the truth is Linux has all that including the Start Menu and it has more? what
More? yes have you went to www.video.google.com and looked up beryl? well you should. It's an optional 3D desktop
for the people that are not afraid of new features, and have faster computers. Of course it's not turned on by default.
If you have Nvidia or ATI video cards and a Direct X 9 card or better it will work. You don't even need all that junk they
say you must have to be VISTA ready. lol. Your 3 year old computer would do just fine. Not to mention Office is free
and all the educational programs your kids need like typing tutors and geography and even college courses. Well
since the average Linux Operating System comes with over 400 programs that Windows does not have all for free I
probably should stop talking or I will clog the Internet up. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. go to www.distrowatch.
com to find out all the latest. And if you want to know more look for videos on each version on video.google.com .
Complete SUSE instructions are on my site on www.mindblowingidea.com click Self Help.

Someone said Windows Media Center was a good OS to use? Well A customer I just had bought a brand new Dell
with Media Center installed and the Printer Spooler would not work with Lexmark printers (Dell resells mostly Lexmark
printers, Dell printers are relabeled lexmark printers). XP worked great on all her previous Dell Computers to hook up
to the Lexmark Printer but the New Media Center edition would not work. It disabled it's Spooler every time the
computer restarted. Even when I started the spooler and reinstalled the spooler After installing a printer we were right
back to it not working. I even reinstalled the OS several times. It never did work and the drivers were downloaded for
XP but would not work with Media Center. Maybe Dell wanted her to get a newer printer? One of my other customers
told me Dell told him he had to get Media Center edition of XP or he would not be able to record his movies from his
camera? What are they trying to pull to squeeze that extra dime out of him? Everyone knows Windows Movie Maker
comes on every XP computer. I think it even comes on ME the Most Errors i have ever gotten in a Windows OS. Too
bad Vista is even worse than ME. I thought ME was the worst mistake Microsoft would ever make.

Dell sent me an e-mail asking me to fill out a survey. They said that all the schools want LINUX computers instead of
Windows and are going to teach Linux. They asked what programs should be installed on these computers that
customers would want. I answered the survey. Other companies are switching too. HP has dumped a lot of research
and money into making all their printing products Linux compatible. Linux people don't go away from Linux they just
buy the products that work with Linux. Most anything you buy works with some form of Linux but just like Vista there
are some things it's not compatible with actually not just like Vista. Vista is not compatible with over %80 of people's
computers Linux works on about %90 of people's computers. If you don't trust me just go to Wall mart or Sears and
ask for a Linux computer. They will sell you one. IBM (the main supporter or Microsoft that got it started) said that they
now primarily support Linux %100 over anything else. Why? Well it's because IBM makes Servers and Servers can't
crash or the Internet would just stop working. over %60 of the world's servers run Linux. NAPA only uses SUN BSD
Linux for their servers. NAPA has never used anything else. AT&T invented the LINUX BASH because it runs all their
equipment out in the filed that routs calls and such. Even though most of AT&T's workers use Windows at their desks
just because they are comfortable with it does not mean that AT&T thinks it's better. Novel bought SUSE because
they needed something stable to install on their servers and equipment. IBM mainly is the supporter or Red Hat and
Fedora because only Fedora could be used to test the New Cell Processor they invented for the PS3 when it first
came out. Now SONY supports Yellow Dog Linux because it's all that will run on the PS3.

So what is the catch? Well for starters most computer technicians were never trained in Linux so you might have to
learn something about fixing computers or you might have to ask one of your relatives. Linux computers can get into
any windows machine on the same network without permission because of security flaws so be careful not to hack in
to your friend's computer using the file sharing or printer sharing wizard. Be careful not to use encrypted password
protected WiFi with your laptop. Linux will automatically give you all passwords to all WiFi networks you request to use
if you have airsnort installed. Linux looks different. Even though it has a Start menu if you choose the KDE Look and
Feel, it still is different. KDE use to be almost exactly the same as Windows but as time progressed they found that
this plane Windows looking start menu was just to plain. Now they made it have tabs for a quicker search (not
available in Linspire) and separate sub categories, to help you find things faster. they also added nicer looking icons
with big text and icons so that you can see them better. If you are a Mac lover the Gnome is for you. Use Gnome
instead of KDE and the menus at the top of the screen will be there to help you adjust to Linux from a Mac. Yes you
can install LINUX on a Macintosh. Just download the PPC version. the X86 version is for a 32 bit computer and the
X86_64 version is for 64 bit and 128 bit PCs. Linux is expensive. Even though you download it for free look at all that
time you spend learning how it works. I mean you have to download it, burn it to a disk, install it by pressing enter, set
a password and user name, and then you have to download all those free programs and updates, install your printer
and scanner. A support package can be purchased from Novell for SUSE for one year for over $200 that will allow you
to get help and support, a manual and an install DVD of SUSE for a whole year. One positive thing about Linux is at
least you don't have to download most printer drivers when using SUSE.

Other Notes:

Here is the Windows Vista Agreement, Read This:

As described below, using the software also operates as your consent to the transmission of certain computer information during activation, validation and for Internet-based services.” “the software will send information about the software and the device to Microsoft.” “Any potentially unwanted software rated “high” or “severe,” will automatically be removed after scanning unless you change the default setting… By using this software, it is possible that you will also remove or disable software that is not potentially unwanted software.” (Your programs that Microsoft does not like will be removed!) “Microsoft provides Internet-based services with the software. It may change or cancel them at any time.” (change them? It has changed them so that it updates your PC without your permission) “The software features described below and in the Windows Vista Privacy Statement connect to Microsoft or service provider computer systems over the Internet. In some cases, you will not receive a separate notice when they connect… By using these features, you consent to the transmission of this information.” “The following features use Internet protocols, which send to the appropriate systems computer information, such as your Internet protocol address, the type of operating system, browser and name and version of the software you are using, and the language code of the device where you installed the software. Microsoft uses this information to make the Internet-based services available to you.” (if I wanted Microsoft to make their MSN service provider available to me I would have asked for it) “Content owners use Windows Media digital rights management (Digital Restrictions Management) technology (WMDRM) to protect their intellectual property, including copyrights. This software and third party software use WMDRM to play and copy WMDRM-protected content. If the software fails to protect the content, content owners may ask Microsoft to revoke the software’s ability to use WMDRM to play or copy protected content. Revocation does not affect other content. When you download licenses for protected content, you agree that Microsoft may include a revocation list with the licenses.” (this is where Microsoft collects a list of every file on your system to make sure it’s legal according to them) “Microsoft may use the computer information, error reports, and Malware reports to improve our software and services. We may also share it with others, such as hardware and software vendors. They may use the information to improve how their products run with Microsoft software.” (it’s bad enough the banks are sharing our info with all the companies Microsoft does too?) “The software is licensed, not sold. This agreement only gives you some rights to use the software. Microsoft reserves all other rights.” (Oh I get it now when I go to the store and buy software I don’t actually own it) “you must comply with any technical limitations in the software that only allow you to use it in certain ways.” “You may not work around any technical limitations in the software; reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the software, except and only to the extent that applicable law expressly permits, despite this limitation; use components of the software to run applications not running on the software; make more copies of the software than specified in this agreement or allowed by applicable law, despite this limitation; publish the software for others to copy; rent, lease or lend the software; or use the software for commercial software hosting services.” (you can’t fix it, understand how it works, or share it) “Any person that has valid access to your computer or internal network may copy and use the documentation for your internal, reference purposes.”(AH! ANYONE MAY COPY MY DOCUMENTATION ON MY PC?) “After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.” (Wait a minute here you can still boot XP after you upgrade to Vista so your just not suppose to because thats illegal?) “If you acquired the software on a disc or other media, a genuine Microsoft proof of license label with a genuine copy of the software identifies licensed software. To be valid, this label must appear on Microsoft packaging. If you receive the label separately, it is invalid. You should keep the packaging that has the label on it to prove that you are licensed to use the software.” (Uh oh Microsoft has broken this agreement. You have a Vista any time upgrade disk and they send you a separate license key code um isn’t that what they say you can’t do here?) “USE OF THIS PRODUCT IN ANY MANNER THAT COMPLIES WITH THE MPEG-4 VISUAL STANDARD IS PROHIBITED, EXCEPT FOR USE DIRECTLY RELATED TO (A) DATA OR INFORMATION (i) GENERATED BY AND OBTAINED WITHOUT CHARGE FROM A CONSUMER NOT THEREBY ENGAGED IN A BUSINESS ENTERPRISE, AND (ii) FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY; AND (B) OTHER USES SPECIFICALLY AND SEPARATELY LICENSED BY MPEG LA, L.L.C.” (Uh oh we can’t use VLC, Quick time, or any player that plays MP4 or MPEG videos because thats illegal we will need a Mac or a Linux pc for that) “You can recover from Microsoft and its suppliers only direct damages up to the amount you paid for the software. You cannot recover any other damages, including consequential, lost profits, special, indirect or incidental damages.” (Translation Microsoft is not responsible for any problems with the software that may cause you loss of money or property unless that value is less than the cost of the software) “It also applies even if repair, replacement or a refund for the software does not fully compensate you for any losses; or Microsoft knew or should have known about the possibility of the damages.”

So Microsoft can legally be negligent. Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?

Now if you upgrade from XP you can never use that XP licence again. Thats what it says in the agreement. Your toast once you sign it

I found this on Yahoo and thought you would like it.

Why Aren't You Upgrading to Vista?
Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:13PM EST
See Comments (687)
Daily Techno-Babble offers a breathless "three reasons why Windows Vista is sinking like a rock," and while the story
has a point, I don't really think that "limits on how Vista can be used under virtualization" is really the thing about Vista
that is scaring away that many would-be users, nor are Microsoft's DRM provisions on high-definition video much of a
big deal yet, as few users care about high-def on their PC right now. Don't get me wrong: I think all of these are
factors that make Vista a poor OS, but they aren't the primary reason that it's "sinking like a rock."
Given that Vista sales seem lackluster at best, what's the hang-up? I think it's something far more simple than the
reasons that DTB offers up.
So what's turning people off of Vista? Here's my take, in order of importance:
1) Price. There's no way around this one. Upgrading to Vista doesn't just mean spending up to $400 on software, but
also cash on RAM and video card upgrades, or buying a new PC altogether. If Vista was a $100 upgrade that anyone
could use, it'd be a top seller, I'm sure.
2) Nothing new to see here. Love the visual style, but does photo tagging and 3-D window flipping really merit an
3) It's annoying. I don't know any Vista user who hasn't turned off User Account Control, which nags you with an "Are
you sure????" prompt every time you try to do anything beyond run the calculator. Yet UAC is the linchpin of Vista's
vaunted new security system. Without it, it's really no different than XP.
4) Tons of stuff is incompatible with Vista. An acquaintance of mine got a new PC with Vista preinstalled. Neither her
scanner nor her printer had Vista drivers ready. Both peripherals cost several hundred bucks, and now they're
essentially paperweights (though the printer, at some unforseeable time in the future, may work again). Lots of
software won't run on Vista, either, but it's the hardware incompatibilities that are daunting. (Update: Looks like the
scanner driver's finally ready.)
5) It's confusing. Everything that XP could do, Vista can do... only it's buried under a different menu and it has a new
name. While average users probably never use many of these settings, power users have found themselves starting
from scratch to relearn Windows.
6) It's busted. Try connecting to a printer on your network that's hooked up to an XP machine. Or try downloading a
file with a third-party application and then accessing it via another PC on the network. I won't go into a list of the
endless bugs and flaws with the design of Vista, because I don't really have to: Vista needs a Service Pack already.
That's my take, but I'd love to hear your reasons for being hesitant: Why aren't you jumping whole hog into the

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1 Posted by aatw55 on Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:03PM EST Report Abuse
how about big brother's built in spyware? i'm jumping ship to linspire/freespire!

2 Posted by dellmost on Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:04PM EST Report Abuse
Vista does have its share of problems now. But it will soon be caught up with its problems, MS will have to put out
upgrades due to IT changes daily. This operating system is no differance then 95,98,XP or 2000. Why complaine??
We all know as long as there are dum people who want to try to damage your P.C. there must be changes, all most
daily. But all and all since we are now dependent on P.C. for news and comunacation we have to hope for the best.
MS is the good guy not the bad guy. So I say good luck to MS we wish you the best, keep the windows down and let
us feel the breezzz!!!!!!!!

3 Posted by cfalls37 on Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:39PM EST Report Abuse
what for? I'm happy with my XP, and I promise to stay with it till it craps out, perhaps. John

4 Posted by motelman444 on Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:10PM EST Report Abuse
i noticed at sams club they had lots of computers on shelves pre loaded with win xp two days later, they had pulled all
their old comps and replaced them with units pre loaded with vista. i havent been able to find a new computer with xp
on any shelf since hmmm am i to be force fed this new operating sytem?
Reviewer Product Review
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Pay to Beta test

Pros: Pretty face.

Cons: After jumping ship when Apple appeared to be going down, I went on board with a PC and Windows 95. It took me awhile to realize the problems I was having with my PC was mostly the OS. Now on my 6th generation PC I know better than to screw around wasting time Beta testing for Microsoft. I'm dumping this buggy garbage and going back to the only stable OS Microsoft has ever put out - XP Pro.

Other Thoughts: Vista is worse than Microsoft ME if you can imagine that.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 "Vista!"

Pros: It's Pretty

Cons: Vista is slow, ask a lot of questions, is highly incompatible with a lot programs and for multilingual users MUI's are huge. It has the same features or less than XP and takes a lot more space to install.

Other Thoughts: Please don't buy Vista if you have any other choice you are just setting your self up for disappoint and aggravation.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Big Mistake

Pros: Fancy animated window behaviors when minimizing/maximizing, Aero Glass theme giving transparent appearance, play video clips for desktop backgrounds, and that's about all.

Cons: CPU process hog, memory (RAM) hog, bloated program sizes, horribly slow on same hardware which WinXP Pro sails, poor hardware driver support, many slightly older programs will not work, look & feel copied from Mac OSX, poor redesign of Windows Explorer address bar/navigation, poor redesign of Start Menu, and nothing else worth spending your money on.

Other Thoughts: Windows XP isn't obselete...Microsoft just wants more money and it's been 5 years, so they're touting this pile of dung which sinks lower than the joke called Windows ME. Don't waste your money. I'm a programmer and have experience in Win32/64 development...if you purchase this for the candy-like pretty things, then you obviously haven't heard of WindowBlinds from Stardock which is an inexpensive piece of software that can do the same things on WinXP. Purchase WinXP Pro from newegg...it's more stable, faster, and of course inexpensive.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 New low for Microsoft

Pros: Well, it is pretty.

Cons: Very few things work correctly with it. It has been known to run slower with newer machines than XP with older machines. The updates that came out recently do not work. Most hardware drivers do not work with it or will deny you features. Makes ME look solid. The security features are frustrating and you still get virusses and spyware.

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sad texan
Tech Level: high
Ownership: less than 1 day

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Agree with Ski_ya_later

Pros: Great eye candy, outstanding desktop wallpapers, outstanding security,built on foundation of windows nt kernel

Cons: Now were we start, hmm bloated, asking every time before install, refusing to run program you purchased(i.e) perfect disk 7, hard to get used to, win me dumbed down, to name a few

Other Thoughts: M$ should have waited another 2 to 3 years before debutting this os. Please wait til sp1 comes integrated into this disc and price to fall before upgrading. Plus its a resource hog. I had 2800 sempron with 1 gig ram, 40 gig hdd, I had nothing but heck with it

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Vista Ultimate

Pros: Lot's of neat features, but very little substance.

Cons: Unless you're planning to upgrade most every one of you commercial computer programs, don't bother with Vista. It's a good operating system, but it's compatibility stinks. We run a small business and most of our commercial software doesn't work correctly with Vista. If you're in business and you value you're time and money, don't bother with Vista, it just isn't worth it.

Other Thoughts: Save your time and money, go with XP Pro.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 More interested in learning Linux

Pros: The Aero interface, if you like system bloat. The network stack is a little nicer, nicer to the non power users out there.

Cons: Runs horrible on my system Pentium D 805 @ 3.2 and 2GB of DDR 800 ram. Could not get Adobe CS2 Suite to install at all and when it did it always said there were hardware changes, when there were none. People told me it had something to do with UAC, disabled UAC, and same result. I don’t want to be forced to purchase CS3 just yet.

Other Thoughts: After running Vista for about a little over a month I decided to take it off my system and go back to XP 64 bit. System runs very nicely now!

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Disappointed

Pros: Looks nice if all you want to do is browse the web and the local machine.

Cons: Very poor printer and scanner support. HP has not done a good job with the drivers. Also, can't run Microsoft's own Digital Suite 2006 without crashing. I am glad that I imaged my XP drive before the upgrade because that is what I am running now. Very poor experience with Vista. I recommend only if you have brand new devices and a lot of computer resources. I would like a refund!

Other Thoughts: I cannot believe that I paid good money for this!

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The Linux Guy
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Vista is a joke

Pros: None

Cons: I am the computer systems manager at work. At work we sell and rent computers, mainly Dell PCs. I am a Linux fan, just to know that I have bias. But this attempt by MS is a complete rip off from Linux. #1 - they try to emulate security features of Linux and Mac. But at the same time, they disable the Admin account by default!?!? If you enable the Admin account it can be disabled by anyone that is 'called' Admin. #3 - the security features are just a show. #4 - Operating system not found??? This is a regular problem with SATA drives. They actually have a tool' to fix that on the DVD. That in itself should tell you they let this thing out on the public without having it work right. All in all, this, just like the first release of XP, is not ready for production. Thanx for a headache Bill Gates!

Other Thoughts: I wish they would have been more mind conscious and not profit conscious

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Former MSFT supporte
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: less than 1 day

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Not buying Vista

Pros: It's "pretty".

Cons: DRM, MSFT license , S L O W, Bloatware, etc.

Other Thoughts: Really let down by MSFT.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Stay Away

Pros: I do like media center and the new interface on media center is nice but in the long run it still has less features then Beyond TV & Beyond Media. Plus Media Center copy guards all it records. It prevents you from watching the recording on any other machine even on my local home network. I like to watch movies on my laptop outside but cannot do that with Media Center.Another instance of Microsoft playing big brother and ignoring there consumers needs.

Cons: After installing this OS my machine ran slower. The new Aero graphics were OK but compared to openSuse running XGL Vistas graphics seemed lame. Funny thing is... Vistas Aero interface does not like my ATI 256mb video card but I dual boot my free openSuse Linux on the same machine and it used this card no problem. What makes it even worse for Microsoft is that Linux running XGL is a true 3d enviorment and has 20 times more graphics features. It seems Microsoft is trying to force users to buy new hardware and overpay for there crummy OS

Other Thoughts: I have been a big Microsoft fan for a long time and have worked in the IT field for 7 years now, mainly with MS products. After creating my current system as a dual boot (Vista & openSuse) I hardly go into Vista as it is time to move on from Microsoft. Poor security and a high price tag have turned me off. Mix that in with the fact that the OS is locked down and customers are harassed if they change to much hardware and have to keep Microsoft up to date on what they do on there own systems. What a shame! What has 3d graphics, comes with an office suite, multiple desktops, every piece of software needed for free and is stable and secure? Not this operating system! Vista is a mess. Stay away if you want a good OS get openSuse for free and be amazed by it's unlimited features which are all free! Maybe if enough people move on Microsoft will respect there customers again.

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I don't need this.
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 YOU DON'T NEED THIS

Pros: Tried it. It runs...

Cons: Lots of issues. Way too much useless crxp. On a second thought, all I really need is a simple, totally streamlined, stable and secure OS. This is not one of those. It takes way too much space and is slower then XP used to run on same PC. Still has bugs, my burner and printer doesn't work. Needed to download drivers from manufacturer site. Some don’t have it. Get another printer now? Common…!!!!! Then, unless you have a min. 2GB and a double core, don't even think about it. Not worth a tenth of its price.

Other Thoughts: All those extras (read price inflators) I can download for free nowadays. Why let myself bullied by Microsoft into buying a bunch of useless “upgrades” and “improvements”? I am removing it, and try LINUX now.

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Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Driver issues

Pros: Components easier to remove than in XP.

Cons: I bought a new system with Vista installed and it had issues with video and sound drivers. I managed to find an video driver that worked after trying 2. The audio drivers don't work at all. I tried to use the onboard sound as well as a PCI card with no luck. I tried 3 drivers from Microsoft, 2 for the PCI card and 2 from the computer manufacturer all with no luck.

Other Thoughts: Vista is not worth the upgrade yet. I only got it because it came with my system which Newegg delivered promptly. I hope my copy of XP gets here just as fast so I can actually use it.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 junk

Pros: Looks nice

Cons: Its pure junk, it eats a good bit of memory, takes up more space on a HD that any other version of Windows, doesnt support low cost but good performing vid cards, eats your files and has a lack of good programs that work with it

Other Thoughts: If you want windows get XP, dont put up with the bull and the stress caused by Vista

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 More like a "Downgrade"

Pros: Some interesting concepts, that's all.

Cons: Don't let the hype confuse you. Vista is not an improvement. With tons of little features that you don't need, makes it the most cpu/memory hogging OS out. Idle is 400-500 ram and 30-50 cpu... XP is around 100-200 ram 0-10 cpu. Linux+XGL 100-250 ram 0-10 cpu. My computer was running at about 50-60C with Vista, on XP 40Cish. And it's not really more secure, it's more of the fact Vista blocks everything that isn't certified (including Admin account). Tested on E6600, 2gigs ram, Sata2 hd - (maybe just need better? :P)

Other Thoughts: If you want a visually attractive OS go with Linux. If you want to play games well stay with XP. If you like disappointments upgrade away.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Beta at a Price

Pros: None Unless you like the color BLUE. This really makes Linux programmers look like geniuses.

Cons: More or less no Drivers for cards and chips that have been out for ever. Memory and CPU hog. Having worked at a software company this what happens when the big shot come in and say we have to release something so instead of having people test it for free, they now sell it and they have people pay them to test it.

Other Thoughts: This took 5 years to create I bet the programmers are really good at Solitaire. Never load anything from MS until the second spac. Been testing this stuff for a long time now and it has never gotten any better.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Still a Beta

Pros: Apple is going to sell a /lot/ of Macs!

Cons: I was delighted with Vista for a few hours, and then the bugs swarmed. Little creepy crawly bugs. Big stingy bugs, like three blue screens and 64 mbit/sec file transfers from an XP workstation on a /gigabit/ network. (I checked online, and others are having the same network problem; Microsoft tech support is doing its usual backwards walk.) Some of these bugs have been around since Windows 95!

Other Thoughts: The general rule seems to be that Microsoft's betas are alphas, Microsoft's releases are betas, and Microsoft's Service Pack 1's are releases. When MS gets this thing to the RTM stage, it will be a useful upgrade to XP. In the meantime, install it if you want to play, but if you're in a production environment and actually need to get work done, stick with XP until the fixes are out and the OS at least meets Microsoft's usual low standards.

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Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 .....and I want this because?

Pros: none...? Oh, if I want DX10, maybe there's a point to Vista.

Cons: I can get better and more customizable desktop effects on Linux with Beryl or Compiz. For free. I can get desktop search on Linux with Beagle or similar for free. I can get every meaningful feature of Vista on Linux for free. So what's the point? And on Linux, the desktop effects only need like 200-400 megs of RAM. Not 512-2gigs.

Other Thoughts: I guess I just don't see why I should pay hundreds of $$ for features I can get for free elsewhere. I also don't understand why Vista has such steep hardware requirements for simple effects.

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Sad I did
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Very disappointing

Pros: only way to get DX10

Cons: Only way to get dx10

Other Thoughts: Wait untill you are forced kicking and screaming to upgrade, don't fall for the pressure to purchase.. This is a new low for MS!

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Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: less than 1 day

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Vista!

Pros: It looks pretty. Eventually it will have better security and stability than xp. This will probably take about a year or two though.

Cons: Very slow compared to xp. Lots of driver issues. It's not really that much better than xp and it'll raise the cost of computers to get the same performance. It seems more like a step backwards than an improvement.

Other Thoughts: Microsoft should be embarrassed to ship this after 6 years of development. If it was really a good system then why does bg need to run his mouth off trying to convince people to upgrade to it?

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Vista? NO GO!

Pros: After disabling all the stuff that makes my PC look like a "insert competing OS here that rhymes with sack" I finally was able to get some decent performance. Note: Better network performance was a significant plus.

Cons: Why did I upgrade a lighting fast xp machine to an OS that makes the same machine run a lot slower? Even with Aero and all the GUI enhancements (sidebar, etc.) disabled this OS runs slower than XP. I'm running 3GB RAM, a dual core processor, two 10K hard drives in Raid 0, and two SLI vid cards. Tell me I need more hardware to make this OS run faster! I have lost some faith in Microsoft, they really sold their souls to the devil here.

Other Thoughts: I beta tested Vista for 7 months, I spent about 30 hours submitting problems and issues to Microsoft about the Vista beta, they only addressed 20% of the things I mentioned. I really thought they would have done a better job of releasing this OS as a finely tuned product. I guess that's too much to ask from the largest software maker on Earth...

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Sucks!

Pros: Looks pretty, "Will" support Direct X 10.

Cons: Eats a huge portion of RAM 40% Idle on a 2Gb system. Aero effect will keep you poor video card working much harder than on XP. Drivers are unstable, mainly for Video cards. Program compatibility is just horrible, things just run much slower. This will also eat your battery life on laptops due to the high amounts of bandwith it uses. It took nearly 6 years for this?

Other Thoughts: Stick to XP.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 worthless

Pros: looks nice?

Cons: So many cons. First of all, it wouldn't let me do an upgrade install so I had to do a clean install on my hd. Second, while it didn't take any longer than XP to install, after installation it would freeze up every 5 seconds for about a minute at a time, making installing all my video/sound/etc... drivers take FOREVER! Oh, and did I mention that getting the internet to work doesn't work? Went to my wifes laptop, downloaded new drivers for my NIC and still nothing. Called comcast and they had absolutely no idea what to do as they don't have any guidance on VISTA as of yet. I was fed up after about 6 hours of trying to get anything done so I scrapped it all and reloaded XP. Internet works fine and no hang ups. While VISTA may look a little better than XP it's certainly not worth the money yet, at least not for me.

Other Thoughts: After reading all the reviews I'm glad to see this OS works for someone out there, maybe I'll reinstall it in about a year when Microsoft actually gets their head out of Gates bank account and works on fixing all the glitches that they forget to fix before release. They should take notes from Blizzard and maybe they'd have happier customers. My system specs are 2.66 GHz dual core, 4 Gigs of ram, 2 EVGA Geforce 7950 GT vid cards in SLI mode, 36.7Gig raptor drive for OS and 250Gig drive for programs. All that said, I know it's not my computer that won't run it. Anyway, hope you guys have better luck than I did.

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Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Not a Necessary Update.

Pros: It is an upgrade to XP. But not much different in usefulness. I still run old programs and I do not see much difference except slow response. The user interface looks different and nice. Looks like MS has managed to copy many good features of Mac OS X.

Cons: Total waste of money.Constantly churns HD, the system is continuously using Internet (to talk to MS?). I still use my old programs. My processor is running hard and hot. So, I installed my old XP back. Now everything is back to normal. But I cannot return this new OS for refund and I cannot install on another computer. I lost all that money because of my curiosity.

Other Thoughts: My 256 MB nVidia Video card was not good enough for this OS. I am glad I switched back to XP. Now I am happy but poorer. The antipiracy features do not allow me to install it on another computer, even though I ununstalled from the first computer.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Don't buy

Pros: The box looks nice and it has support for DX 10.

Cons: Lets see, lack of drivers, support and innovation. Not to mention it won't install on my hardware even though XP runs great on it and it is all supposedly Vista Ultimate ready according to Microsoft's adviser program.

Other Thoughts: It makes me glad I have a Mac as well. The disc makes a pretty nice looking coaster. Newegg is usually the best part of any computer related transaction.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Wow this is a pile

Pros: new network stack. major graphical improvement over xp.

Cons: 1,000 characters max isnt going to be enough room. this operating system is just flat out horrid. the security features (not firewall, phishing, etc... but to keep you from pirating it) are excessive to a point where its offensive. i just bought a personal copy (i have to test websites/programs... have to own it) but have had one from the intial business release a month ago.. ive had to call microsoft twice to get authorization. thats twice too much. past those issues, this entire operating system is just a blatant copy of apples os x. they really didnt even try hard to mask it. i mean... come on... "gadgets"?

Other Thoughts: wait before purchasing, or spend the money in a wise investment into a copy of linux (buy the support) or get a mac. vista isnt ready for prime time.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Absolutely not recommended!

Pros: TCP stack rewritten so you can expect better networking functionality, (this does not translate into any faster connection speeds)

Cons: Far too many to list here... but most importantly Microsoft insults their customers by attempting to protect them from themselves! Putting up a barrage of pop up windows one after the other like the ones the system is suppost to protect you from until you finally submit, not me though! I turned off all those awful so called security features only to be confronted by a warning message that I am not intelligent enough to to make this decision! The unified audio driver removes hardware control of your audio and ultimately give s MS or their content partners control over your MUSIC and your ability to secure fair use of your purchased music! Then there is the question of who has control over your video, the confusing menu's and ability to navigate them easily, the memory hogging search features that really is NOT needed by the home user, the OS is still bloated after all these years of development, too bad!

Other Thoughts: Hopefully my friends and colleagues are smart enough not to buy Vista in it's current state, eventually we have little choice as OEM's will pre install it on new machines.. UNLESS we take action NOW and demand to have an OS our way! I've had to acquire a copy in order to provide tech support for those who have no choice and need my help!

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 Waste of Money

Pros: Packaging looks neat.

Cons: Where to begin.

Other Thoughts: Overlooking stability issues and driver compatibility you must also look at why you purchased this Operating System. Anyone I know who buys an operating system that is not pre-installed on the system in question will be without a doubt upgrading their system at some point. Upgrading == Buying Another Copy of Vista == BAD for Consumer of a software product that runs their system. This one is not worth all the hassles involved. The retail version is the one you are looking for unless you have no intention of ever upgrading your hardware EVER. The retail version however suffers the same flaws as this one. It is slow to load. Slow to task. Crashes alot. Driver support is hit or miss. Microsoft support is virtually non-existent. Call the number and find out what I mean. They will be telling you Sorry your hardware is not supported fully at this time. Why sell me a product to run my system when it fails to recognize several components in my system.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1

Pros: Package looks nice...

Cons: Everything. Wont install. freezes at the last installation screen (green progress bars). Attempting to load into safemode prevents the installation from completing. So sad that this product has been in development for years and there is little information (support) nor anything more than half-hearted betas and hacks. Though the product may be finished, it is clear that driver support appears to be six months to a year behind...

Other Thoughts: Newegg is the best.

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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 I just doesn't work

Pros: no real pros. A slick looking usertinerface. But that's it

Cons: crashes, and very slow boots.

Other Thoughts: using it for a month now after getting it from technet. It is *very* unstable. I ran it on an AMD64 system with 2GByte of RAM, and it crashed about twice a day. Sometimes freezes on boot

3 out of 27 people found this review helpful. Did you? Yes No

Tech Level: high
Ownership: less than 1 day

Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1Rating + 1 filled with drm

Pros: it has dx10 and looks cool

Cons: it's filled with drm

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